Podcast Episode: thinking between languages 🇺🇸✍🏻

Pip: What happens in the space between languages — not the dictionary lookup, not the grammar check, but the moment before words arrive? That’s the territory osoparavos.com is exploring this week, courtesy of Adam Donaldson Powell.

Mara: The essay takes on translation itself — what it actually is, what it fails to do, and what a richer practice might look like. Let’s start with the argument that translation, at its highest, isn’t translation at all.

Thinking Between Languages

Mara: The essay opens by dismantling the standard picture of translation: find the equivalent word, adjust the grammar, preserve the meaning. That model treats language as a code. The argument here is that it’s something else entirely — an organization of experience, a structure of perception, and those don’t transfer by substitution.

Pip: The essay puts it starkly: “Words are the visible surface of thought, not thought itself.”

Mara: That’s the hinge the whole essay turns on. If thought precedes language, then the translator’s first obligation isn’t to the words — it’s to the understanding that generated them. Getting the words right while missing that is, as the essay puts it, like a musician who reproduces every note correctly but fails to hear the phrase.

Pip: Accurate performance, absent music. That’s a useful distinction — and it leads somewhere specific.

Mara: It leads to what the essay calls re-creation, framed through René Passeron’s concept of poïetics: the philosophy of creation while the work is still becoming. The claim is that a great translation isn’t a copy of an original — it’s a new realization of the same creative impulse.

Pip: Proust is the main exhibit. He translated Ruskin without effortless English fluency, relying on his mother to clarify difficult passages. Which sounds like a liability until you read what the essay actually argues.

Mara: Right — the essay separates comprehension from re-creation. His mother helped him understand what Ruskin had written. What Proust did with that understanding was his own work entirely. The essay frames his pastiche practice the same way: writing in another author’s voice isn’t copying, it’s “analysis performed through creation.”

Pip: You enter the voice to find its internal mechanisms. Which is, the essay notes, structurally identical to what a serious translator does.

Mara: The essay then describes what it calls the invisible stage — reformulation. Between understanding a text and writing a new version of it, there’s a moment where meaning detaches from its original form. The translator asks not “how would this sentence be expressed in French?” but “if this thought were born in French, what form would it naturally assume?”

Pip: That’s the difference between imitation and creation, stated as a question.

Mara: And it scales to language learning generally. Technical fluency allows communication; creative fluency allows creation. The essay’s endpoint is that thinking between languages isn’t a condition of incompleteness — it’s an expanded form of awareness. “The space between languages is not empty. It is creative.”

Pip: So the next question is what that creative space actually produces — and for whom.


Mara: The essay ends where it began: creation is re-creation, and the translator is both reader and writer, witness and participant.

Pip: Several voices, one consciousness. That’s worth sitting with until next time.

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